Data, not algorithms, is the lasting layer of AI
Arena’s chief says labs already spend up to a fifth of computing budgets on data, and suppliers could be worth hundreds of billions.

20VC with Harry Stebbings · Arena CEO: There Will be a $100BN US Open-Source Model & Data is a Trillion Dollar MarketAn investor in Mercor asked about the data suppliers behind AI, naming Mercor, Handshake, Surge, and Scale as companies above a billion dollars in revenue, with others doing hundreds of millions. Anastasios (Andy) Kyrtsos, the chief executive of Arena, a company that tests how AI models perform on real work, said he has a thesis for why their growth will last.
His line was short. “Data plus GPUs equals model,” he said. GPUs, the chips used to train AI, get most of the attention, but he argued that data is the other half of the equation.
He explained it with cars and gasoline. In economics, he said, some goods are complements, meaning demand for one drives demand for the other. More cars sold means more gas sold. Data, he argued, is what he calls a scaling complement to AI models. As models get bigger, get more numerous, and spread to more businesses training their own versions, the need for data grows with them.
That is why he believes data is "less so of a commodity than even GPUs." He said data only becomes irrelevant once humans do, which would mean artificial general intelligence has been reached.
Frontier labs, the handful of companies building the largest models, now spend about 10 to 20 percent of what they spend on computing power on data, he said. If computing keeps growing and models keep scaling, Kyrtsos said, the data market will reach what he called “at least a hundred billion dollars by 2030 if not a trillion.”
The questioner then posed a hypothetical, that Anthropic and OpenAI could be worth $3 trillion to $5 trillion, and asked whether that could make a data provider worth $100 billion. Kyrtsos answered, “I think these companies will easily be worth hundreds of billions of dollars.”
The same discussion raised the obvious objection, that these providers depend heavily on a few customers such as OpenAI, Anthropic, and Meta. Kyrtsos dismissed the concern, saying investors had become too fussy about revenue concentration, and pointed to chipmaker TSMC and to government suppliers such as Anduril as hugely concentrated businesses that do very well.
Sourcing that data is the hardest and dirtiest part of training, he said, work nobody wants to do, while the underlying design, a standard method called the transformer, is now widely understood.
Questions people ask
Why would bigger AI models need more data, not less?
Models learn by finding patterns in huge collections of text, images, code, and human feedback. A larger and more capable model generally must see more varied and higher quality examples to keep improving and to avoid repeating mistakes.
What is the transformer he mentions?
It is the standard blueprint most large AI models use to process language and other information. It was introduced by Google researchers in 2017 and is now taught widely, which is why Kyrtsos calls the algorithm side a commodity.
What makes data the dirty and hard part?
Raw information from the internet and businesses is messy, duplicated, copyrighted, poorly labeled, or full of errors. Data companies must filter it, check facts, remove harmful material, and often pay people to write answers, solve problems, or rate responses.