He says he saw video of three or four bodies that looked very human
The former intelligence officer says the footage was sharp and recent, and checked for years before he believed it.
The Joe Rogan Experience · #2560 - David GruschFormer Air Force officer David Grusch told interviewer Joe Rogan on a podcast about video he said he was shown of dead bodies from a crash retrieval. Rogan asked how human they looked, and Grusch answered, “Very.” He then added that they were “very, very beautiful.”
By that, Grusch said, he meant figures that looked strikingly human. The skin was bluish white, like a pale albino, he said. They had a nose and ears like a person, as far as he could recall, and hair that looked grayish. He said he recalled seeing three or four bodies, and that he did not know what the total was.
Grusch claimed the footage was clear and contemporary. Rogan asked whether it was clear rather than old black and white film from the 1950s, and Grusch agreed that it was very clear. He said it was filmed during a retrieval operation and was not an ultra close up, describing a pan while, as Grusch put it, “people had a job to do.” He would not say how old the footage was, he said, because that could identify a specific operation and the people who shared it.
He also said there had been work to compare genomes from the recovered biological samples. He said he knew about the dead cadavers because he had seen the audiovisual material. He added that he did not know what the genome comparison found.
Grusch said he sat on the material for years before he trusted it. He said he worried about realistic fakes and about a limited hangout, a partial truth used to mislead, and said he confirmed it independently. That account remains his own and unverified. The video has not been shown publicly, and Grusch said people should not take his word for it and that he wanted the material released so the public could see it.
What stayed with him, Grusch said, was a remark by Gen. McCaslin, who had repeatedly told Tom DeLonge, the former Blink-182 musician who has spoken about UFOs, to think of the Greek gods. Grusch said he now understood that to mean strikingly beautiful figures that look human.
Questions people ask
Has this video been released?
No. Grusch describes video he says he was shown privately. No one outside the interview has seen it, and none of it was played in the interview or released publicly. He says he wants the president to make such material public so independent scientists can examine it.
What would a genome comparison show?
It would extract DNA from tissue, sequence it, and compare it with human and other known genomes. Scientists would look for familiar genes, unusual structures, and measures of relatedness. A true unknown would stand out by sequences that do not match any catalogued organism.
Why compare these beings to Greek gods?
Rogan asks why the Greek gods were so beautiful and lived in the sky, and raises the idea of an original civilization that existed before. He points to strange structures being found around the Earth, including under the pyramids. Grusch responds by floating a breakaway human civilization or bioengineering as possible explanations for why the beings look so much like people.