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The side-talk pattern

Over 20 years of deep work with organizations, nearly every one that brought in outside help began by describing a nice problem. Digging in turns up someone angry, disappointed, or frustrated who isn't raising it with the person involved. Every time, what they do instead is talk about that person to someone else, and the distance between people afraid of being uncomfortable with each other keeps growing.

Group chats go silent

The same pattern shows up when the group chat goes silent, usually because a smaller sidebar has started. Texts asking whether you saw that move to a side thread, since nobody has the skills or the social permission to raise the issue directly.

Skipped debriefs

It extends to products. Plenty of companies and teams skip the debrief after a product fails, the postmortem on what went wrong, because so much shame is assumed. In some workplaces, people even post oblique stories on Instagram about what is going on in their team.

Why do people pull in a third person?

Psychiatrist Murray Bowen, who worked at Georgetown University, developed family systems theory in the 1950s and 1960s. He observed that when tension builds between two people, one or both often draw in a third person to relieve it, a pattern he called a triangle. The third person absorbs anxiety, so the original pair feels less pressure to resolve things. Bowen saw triangles in families, workplaces, and institutions alike.

How does the military review its failures?

The US Army adopted the after-action review in the 1970s, first at its National Training Center. A review asks four questions: what was supposed to happen, what actually happened, why there was a difference, and what to do next time. Rank is set aside in the discussion, and the aim is to examine events instead of assigning fault. Many companies and hospitals later copied the format.

How much of everyday talk is about other people?

Oxford psychologist Robin Dunbar and colleagues recorded conversations in public places in the 1990s. They reported that about two thirds of the time was spent on social topics, such as who is doing what and with whom. Dunbar argued that gossip serves as a form of social grooming, letting humans keep track of large groups. The finding was part of his broader theory about why human language evolved.

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